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Constitution Breakdown #4: Janet Napolitano

November 28, 2025 • 1h 22m

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Overview

In this episode of 99% Invisible's breakdown of the Constitution, Roman Mars and Elizabeth Joh discuss Article 2, which establishes the executive branch. They interview former Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano about executive power, the creation of DACA, and the relationship between Congress and the President. The episode then examines Trump's boat strikes in the Caribbean through the lens of constitutional war powers, exploring how vague constitutional language and legal precedents have enabled unprecedented military action.

Article 2 and Executive Power with Janet Napolitano

The episode begins with an exploration of Article 2 of the Constitution, which establishes the executive branch in remarkably vague terms. Former Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano explains how cabinet positions work in practice, describing the dynamic relationship between implementing presidential policies and generating new policy ideas. She emphasizes that how the cabinet functions varies significantly depending on who is president and their management style.

  • Article 2 establishes the executive branch using vague terms with no specific job descriptions for cabinet positions
  • Under President Obama, cabinet members both implemented White House policies and generated policy ideas through collaborative processes
  • The practical work of cabinet positions involves management challenges: allocating resources, figuring out deployments, and monitoring whether policies achieve intended results
" The president has he got his own set of norms I mean he an unusual sui generis character in American politics in a way I hope he sui generis "

The Creation and Implementation of DACA

Napolitano provides an insider's account of creating the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program in 2012. After Congress repeatedly failed to pass the DREAM Act, she proposed an executive solution based on prosecutorial discretion. The program was designed and implemented in just 60 days, requiring the department to design forms, set fees, train reviewers, and educate communities—all while building trust with young people who had spent their lives fearing immigration authorities.

  • DACA was created after Congress failed to pass the DREAM Act at the end of 2011, prompting Napolitano to seek executive alternatives
  • The program was implemented in just 60 days, including designing forms, setting fees, training staff, and community education
  • At its peak, DACA enrolled approximately 850,000 young people who arrived in the US under age six on average
  • Building trust was crucial since applicants had to provide addresses and parents' names to the same government they'd feared
" I can remember this clear as day. I called my staff into my office and I said, you know, we've got to do something here. Give me a memo. Give me some options that are possible. "
" President Obama was very careful on immigration. He didn't want to proceed simply by executive order because he felt this was Congress's responsibility. And I think he's right about that. "

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