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In this landmark 1,000th episode of Armchair Expert, Dax and Monica interview Elizabeth Smart about her harrowing 2002 kidnapping at age 14. Smart shares the complete story of her nine-month captivity, her relationship with religion and shame, and her remarkable recovery. The conversation explores the investigation's many frustrating near-misses, her interactions with law enforcement while still captive, and how she's transformed her trauma into advocacy work helping other survivors.
Celebrating 1,000 Episodes and Elizabeth Smart's Story
Dax and Monica celebrate their milestone 1,000th episode with special guest Elizabeth Smart. They reflect on taking the podcast one episode at a time, similar to staying sober in AA. They introduce Elizabeth's incredible story from 2002 and warn listeners about heavy content including abduction and sexual assault, while noting Elizabeth's remarkably positive outlook despite her trauma.
- The hosts compare doing 1,000 episodes to AA's approach of taking it one day at a time
- Elizabeth Smart was abducted in 2002, a story most people knew about but may not know the full details
- There's a new Netflix documentary called 'Kidnapped: Elizabeth Smart' that's incredibly well-made
- Major trigger warning for abduction, sexual assault, and other dark content
" I think of it very much like AA, which is like you can't stay sober for 30 years, but you can stay sober for a day. And then you can kind of blink and it is 30 years. "
Elizabeth's Openness About Her Trauma and the Power of Stories
Elizabeth discusses her comfort level talking about her experience and explains why sharing her story is so important. She emphasizes how stories are more impactful than statistics and how she wants to reach other survivors to let them know they're not alone. She addresses the shame and embarrassment many survivors feel, which she also struggled with for a long time.
- Elizabeth is comfortable discussing her experience and says you can ask her anything
- Stories are more memorable and impactful than statistics for creating understanding
- Elizabeth sees this as an opportunity to reach survivors and let them know they're not alone
- She felt enormous shame and embarrassment after what happened, which is common among survivors
" I have seen enormous, beautiful, positive outcomes of religion. It's working for the vast majority of people and it's a gift to people's life. And I see that. And I also want to say I'm in AA. That's my religion. There's fucking knuckleheads in AA and if they go out and they kill someone in the name of AA, that's not AA, that's a fucking knucklehead who wanted to use that. "
" I think one of the saddest things I see is that when someone dies or heaven forbid is murdered that's it their life is done but when I see too many survivors of sexual violence they're alive but they stop living. That loss of life, I find heartbreaking. "
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