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This episode features former undercover police officer Neil Woods discussing his 14-year career infiltrating drug gangs, his mental health struggles from the work, and why he now believes the war on drugs causes more harm than good. The conversation connects to the podcast's series on Operation Julie, the famous 1970s LSD bust, and explores whether drug prohibition and undercover tactics actually work. Woods shares harrowing stories from his undercover operations and explains his journey from enforcer to activist for drug law reform.
From Coin Flip to Undercover: Neil Woods' Accidental Career
Neil Woods stumbled into undercover policing after dropping out of university and literally flipping a coin to decide his future. His first operation buying crack cocaine was hastily set up with no training or cover story, yet he managed to make the purchase. This DIY approach to undercover drug work was entirely new in the UK at the time, and that first successful buy changed the trajectory of his entire life, leading to increasingly complex and dangerous operations across the country.
- Woods dropped out of university and flipped a coin - heads meant applying to the police, tails meant backpacking around Europe
- He was a terrible uniform cop who couldn't cope with confrontation, but found his calling when asked to buy crack cocaine undercover
- His first undercover purchase was done with no training or cover story - he improvised when asked if he was a student
- This DIY ground-level undercover work was entirely new in the UK; previous operations were long-term high-level infiltrations
" I was only 19. I was definitely a youngster. I didn't realize how young I was until I was in the police though because I found myself to be really terrible at it. I was the worst uniform cop in the world. "
" He says what do you want, are you a student? I hate students. And I thought actually I don't know what I am, no one told me I had to have a cover story so I thought well that'll do - yeah I'm a student. "
The Art of Undercover Work: Weaponizing Empathy
Woods explains how he succeeded in undercover work not by being a great actor, but by using empathy to manipulate people. He targeted the most vulnerable members of communities - homeless people and those in squats - because they had the best drug connections and were easiest to manipulate. The key was being a different version of yourself rather than creating complex characters, though this approach later caused severe mental health consequences including moral injury.
- Success came from thinking quickly and fitting into communities through empathy, not acting ability
- Undercover training emphasized not trying to be an actor - you're not clever enough, just be a different version of yourself
- Woods deliberately targeted the most vulnerable people in each community because they were easiest to manipulate
- He now has complex PTSD and moral injury from stepping over ethical lines and manipulating vulnerable people
" I learnt by understanding how to fit into that community. And I realised quite quickly that the people I needed to get to know were the people who were on the fringe of society, the people who were living in squats or homeless, because they were using the most drugs problematically and they had the best connections. So I fit in with them by using empathy. Nowadays, I look back at it and refer to it as weaponising empathy, because I wasn't using empathy for a very positive thing. I was using it to manipulate people. "
" One of them would be very clear to us and said, look, don't think you're an actor. You're not clever enough to be an actor. "
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