Summary
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Jo Wiley and Zoe Ball discuss a wide range of topics including dental work, anxious travel, menopause struggles, and an upcoming emotional wedding. They share listener feedback on anxiety management, swap royal encounter stories, and tackle the perennial problem of irresponsible dog owners. The episode features their characteristic warmth and humor while addressing both serious health topics and lighthearted rants.
Invisalign Adventures and Dental Disasters
Jo recounts discovering her missing Invisalign retainers in her jeans pocket after a week of panic and feeling her teeth shift. She shares an embarrassing story about leaving her retainer in a BBC studio, leading to an all-staff email. Zoe reveals she's just started her own Invisalign journey and both discuss the challenges and benefits of adult dental work, including the inconvenience of constant removal for eating and drinking.
- Jo found her missing Invisalign retainers worth a fortune in her jeans pocket after a week
- An embarrassing all-staff BBC email went out when Jo left her retainer in a Radio 2 studio
- Zoe just got fitted with Invisalign on her bottom teeth and finds it affects eating habits
- Wearing the trays 22 hours a day means eating and drinking less due to the hassle of removal
" I left one in the studio. God knows how. It must have fallen out of my pocket when I went to do Link. So I was on the train on the way home and I was like, shit, I've lost it. I don't know where it is. And then the next day I got into work and somebody sent an email, an all-starfer to everybody at the BBC saying, somebody left their retainer in the studio yesterday. "
" I went back to being that kid who'd weed herself in the school assembly room. I was so embarrassed and ashamed. I was like, oh, my God, it was me. "
Anxiety Special Response and Mental Health Support
The hosts address the overwhelming positive response to their anxiety special with therapist Owen O'Kane. Listeners share helpful techniques including the CIA framework (Control, Influence, Accept) and the HOPE acronym (Hold On, Pain Ends). Zoe clarifies her previous disclosure about her own mental health struggles, emphasizing she's doing well now after getting help, while acknowledging the ongoing challenges many face accessing proper menopause care and mental health support through the NHS.
- Listener Kirsty shares two helpful anxiety techniques: CIA (Control, Influence, Accept) and HOPE (Hold On, Pain Ends)
- Zoe clarifies her mental health disclosure was about past experiences and she's doing well now after getting help
- Multiple friends are struggling to get proper HRT and menopause support from their GPs
- Recommendation to seek menopause specialists or well-woman clinics if GP support is inadequate
" CIA. And that where I just turn around and say look can you control it. Whatever it is that's making you anxious. If not, can you influence it? And if you can't influence it or control it, then you just need to accept it and find a way of accepting it. "
" Hold On, Pain Ends. And I really like that as well, because I just think, like Owen was saying, being able to turn around to somebody who's suffering from anxiety and saying, do you know what, this isn't going to be forever. This is something that feels big at the moment, but it will be OK. "
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