Summary
Overview
Jo Elvin and Zoe Hardman discuss fashion evolution, aging, summer styling, and personal anecdotes including Jo's daughter staying over, parenting elderly parents, and their love of yacht rock. They also share garden tips from Hever Castle's head gardener Neil Miller and recommend the TV show 'Alice and Steve' which explores controversial age-gap relationships.
Parenting Adult Children and Elderly Parents
Jo shares her joy about her daughter Nellie staying over, which is rare now that she often stays at her dad's. The conversation touches on the complexities of managing elderly parents' medications, with Jo describing the daily struggle of getting her father, who has Parkinson's, to take his tablets. There's a poignant moment when her father asks if Parkinson's 'just goes away,' revealing the heartbreaking reality of dealing with a parent's declining health.
- Jo's daughter Nellie stayed the night, which is a rare treat as she's often at her dad's house
- Jo discusses the challenge of getting her parents, particularly her father, to take their medications using dosette boxes
- Her father asked if Parkinson's 'just goes away,' a heartbreaking moment showing his confusion about his condition
- They acknowledge they'll likely be the same with their own children one day, with India already joking she'll be the one who has to look after everyone
" And then he went, but doesn't Parkinson's just go away? And that was like the heartbreaking moment of the whole chat. And we all went, no, dad, it doesn't. But if you take the tablets, it will help. But every day, it's like Groundhog Day. "
Fashion Evolution and Dressing for Yourself
Jo and Zoe reflect on how their relationship with fashion has changed over the years. They discuss Rebecca Lucy Taylor's comments about her 'indie sleaze era' and dressing for indie boys, relating it to their own experiences of dressing for others versus themselves. The conversation touches on how they now prioritize comfort over trends, though Jo fondly remembers her late 90s Britpop fashion peak when she finally found her groove and stopped caring what others thought.
- Rebecca Lucy Taylor discussed her 'indie sleaze era' in her 20s, dressing for indie boys without her own voice
- Both hosts admit to wearing uncomfortably tight clothing when younger to meet perceived expectations of the male or public gaze
- Jo recalls her fashion peak in the late 90s during Britpop when she was invited to events and wore amazing outfits she loved
- Now they prioritize comfort and are gravitating toward grown-up, classy brands like those worn by Kristin Scott Thomas or Cate Blanchett
" Back in the day, I would definitely wear stuff that was just too tight and was horrendously uncomfortable. And I'd be wearing it just because I felt like I ought to, because whether it was the male gaze or just the public gaze, I'm not entirely sure. "
" I look back and I think, wow, I wore some amazing stuff and I loved wearing it. I think I did a couple of photo shoots, which I used to dread, you know, do any any sort of male magazine photo shoots, because I as you know, I hate having my photo taken. I'm not a model. I don't know how to sit. And people do your hair and makeup and you're like, I look like a stuffed pig. And I used to feel like a sex doll. "
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