Jung & Naiv
Jung & Naiv

#792 - Jimmy Wales, Wikipedia's founder/co-founder

November 14, 2025 • 2m

Summary

⏱️ 2 min read

Overview

A remarkably brief and tense interview with Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia, that abruptly ends after less than a minute when the host asks whether Wales is the founder or co-founder of Wikipedia. Wales adamantly refuses to engage with the question, calling it stupid multiple times, and walks out of the interview, making this the shortest episode of the podcast.

Introduction and the Disputed Question

The episode begins with host introducing Jimmy Wales as the founder of Wikipedia. When the host asks for clarification on whether Wales is the founder or co-founder, Wales immediately dismisses the question as unimportant and refuses to engage with it. Despite the host's multiple attempts to understand Wales's position, Wales becomes increasingly frustrated and maintains that the distinction simply doesn't matter to him.

  • Jimmy Wales introduces himself as founder of Wikipedia
  • Host asks whether Wales is founder or co-founder, referencing an apparent dispute
  • Wales repeatedly insists the question doesn't matter and dismisses it as opinion rather than fact
" I don't care. That's the dumbest question in the world. "
" Well, it's not a fact. It's an opinion. So you can have whatever opinion you like. It doesn't matter. "

The Interview Collapse

The tension rapidly escalates as Wales becomes increasingly dismissive of the host's questions. After repeatedly telling the host the question doesn't matter, Wales declares he's done with the interview. When the host expresses confusion about why the question is considered stupid, Wales refuses to continue, ultimately walking out and ending what becomes the shortest interview in the podcast's history.

  • Wales states he's answered the question four times and announces he's done
  • Wales calls the question stupid when host asks for clarification
  • Interview ends abruptly with Wales leaving
" I've answered your question four times. You know what? I'm done. Thank you. "