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A live recording of the Page 94 podcast from the Cheltenham Literature Festival featuring Andrew Hunter-Murray, Helen Lewis, Ian Hislop, and Adam McQueen. The panel discusses Trump's Middle East ceasefire achievement, Labour's precipitous decline in popularity since taking office, the challenges of governing modern Britain, and Private Eye's literary traditions. The conversation ranges from international diplomacy to domestic politics, media landscape changes, and the magazine's approach to staying relevant in the digital age.
Trump's Middle East Achievement and His Unconventional Diplomacy
The panel analyzes Trump's surprising success in brokering a ceasefire in Gaza, acknowledging it as a genuine accomplishment despite skepticism about his claims of bringing permanent peace to the Middle East. They discuss his tactics of being both a bully and completely unreasonable, which proved effective in pressuring both Israel and Hamas. The conversation highlights the extraordinary moment when Trump personally humiliated Netanyahu by making him apologize to Qatar over the phone in the Oval Office, demonstrating Trump's willingness to act when he felt personally betrayed.
- Trump's Middle East ceasefire described as 'provisional achievement' - he got hostages home and allowed humanitarian aid into Gaza
- Trump's two main qualities identified as being a bully and completely unreasonable, which proved effective for this situation
- Netanyahu forced to apologize on rotary phone to Emir of Qatar in Oval Office after Israel bombed Qatar
- Trump claimed centuries-old dream achieved after only completing two of twenty points in peace plan
" I don't care who started it. I will stop this car, I swear. "
" He's got two main qualities. One, he's a bully and two, he's completely unreasonable. And those, it turns out, were an incredibly good match for this situation. "
" Oh, bloody Trump. "
America Becoming More Saudi While Saudi Becomes More American
Helen Lewis explores the fascinating dynamic where Saudi Arabia is rapidly liberalizing under Mohammed bin Salman, hosting Western comedians and building American-style infrastructure, while America under Trump is embracing aspects of Saudi governance including weakening rule of law and nepotistic foreign policy. The discussion reveals how Trump's transactional approach to international relations mirrors Gulf monarchies' business-first mentality, abandoning previous American commitments to promoting human rights and liberal democracy abroad.
- Saudi Arabia has de-Islamized rapidly, now hosting Western comedians like Jimmy Carr and Louis C.K. without requiring women to cover hair or wear abayas
- America abandoning rule of law principles and sending unqualified family members for foreign affairs work, which Gulf monarchies find familiar and comfortable
- American foreign policy now prioritizes business deals over human rights lectures, with Qatar building air base on American soil and deep crypto interests in Middle East
- Trump's administration preferred by Gulf states because they don't lecture about human rights abuses anymore - just discuss business
" The idea of sending your unqualified son-in-law to do quite important business, we're okay with that over here. We don't think that's weird. "
" American foreign policy has given up, perhaps it was always a delusion, that idea of being the world's policeman or bring a force for liberal democracy, and now it basically is let's you know let's talk business. "
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