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Pool Me Twice, Shame On You

June 23, 2026 • 1h 39m

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Jon Favreau, Jon Lovett, and Tommy Vietor discuss the Iran peace negotiations, the reflecting pool scandal, Trump's new Qatari jet, and rampant corruption in the administration. The episode features an interview with New York Times reporters Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan about their explosive new book 'Regime Change,' which reveals how Trump's second term differs drastically from his first, marked by unprecedented corruption, chaotic decision-making, and a president who sees himself as a 'great man of history' comparable to figures like Napoleon and Genghis Khan.

Iran Peace Negotiations and Trump's Lost Leverage

The hosts analyze the precarious state of peace talks between the U.S. and Iran following Trump's disastrous military campaign. While both sides claim progress, Trump has given up significant leverage by granting Iran 60 days of oil sanction relief without securing concrete concessions. The deal appears worse than Obama's JCPOA, with Iran potentially gaining billions in sanctions relief before allowing weapons inspectors. Trump's incompetence has left him with little credibility or leverage to negotiate a better agreement, despite Republicans attempting various forms of damage control.

  • Both U.S. and Iran say peace talks in Switzerland are progressing, though the situation remains volatile with threats to close the Strait of Hormuz
  • J.D. Vance cited three points of progress: measures to keep Strait open, mechanism to diffuse Israel-Hezbollah flare-ups, and Iran allegedly agreeing to nuclear inspectors
  • U.S. has agreed to waive sanctions on Iranian oil for 60 days for the first time in four decades, potentially bringing Iran $10 billion in sanctions relief
  • Under JCPOA, U.S. didn't give sanctions relief until inspectors were allowed in; now Trump has given relief with no inspectors yet admitted
  • 70% of Americans say the war was not worth the cost; only 30% say it was, showing massive public disapproval
" Well, nuclear weapon supersedes depression. Depression is real bad. Nuclear weapon will cause depression. "
" They're supposed to use money to buy food for their people, because right now their people are very hungry. As long as they respect us, we're going to be fine. "
" If it was on the table, we would have done that. So, like, why do we book this man on television just to, like, spew this hawkish bullshit? "

Republican Responses: From Tucker's Exit to Lindsey's Threats

Republicans remain deeply divided on how to respond to Trump's Iran debacle. Tucker Carlson threatens to leave the Republican Party over prioritizing foreign interests, while Lindsey Graham proposes the fantastical idea of taking over the Strait of Hormuz by force. Most elected Republicans are falling in line, though pro-Trump hawks are struggling to justify the outcome. Polling shows even 60% of Republicans want to end the conflict now, revealing significant unease within the base despite their general support for Trump.

  • Tucker Carlson says he's 'out' of the Republican Party if it puts foreign country interests above American citizens
  • Lindsey Graham threatens U.S. will take over Strait of Hormuz by force and charge fees, obliterating Iran if they contest
  • Some hawks like Hugh Hewitt and Mark Levin suggest 4D chess strategy: negotiate now to prevent Republican losses, then resume bombing after midterms
  • 60% of Republicans want to end conflict now rather than continue; even among MAGA Republicans it's 56%
" I would not support the Republican Party. There's no chance I would support the Republican Party. How could I or any American voter support a political party that's not loyal to the United States that puts the interests of a foreign country above those of its own citizens? "
" If we have inspectors going in there and if that Strait is open for business and oil is flowing, then I think it's very clear the United States will have won this conflict. "

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