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The Audacity of Pope

April 14, 2026 • 1h 44m

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Pod Save America discusses JD Vance's failed negotiations with Iran in Islamabad, Trump's naval blockade of Iranian ports, his public feud with Pope Leo over war and immigration, and domestic political developments including Eric Swalwell's resignation amid sexual assault allegations and the California governor's race. The episode includes an interview with LA City Council member Nithya Raman about her mayoral campaign focused on housing, homelessness, and basic city services.

JD Vance's Failed Iran Negotiations and Naval Blockade

JD Vance's 21-hour direct talks with Iran in Islamabad ended without agreement over Iran's nuclear program and control of the Strait of Hormuz. Trump responded by ordering a naval blockade of Iranian ports, though details remain unclear and Trump was spotted at a UFC fight in Miami instead of managing the crisis. The blockade aims to squeeze Iran's economy but risks raising global oil prices and creating dangerous military confrontations at sea.

  • Vance's negotiations with Iran broke down over nuclear enrichment, the Strait of Hormuz, and other major issues
  • Trump ordered a naval blockade of all Iranian ports following the failed talks
  • The blockade involves 15 US warships including the Abraham Lincoln carrier and could cost billions
  • Iran prepared by placing 130 million barrels of oil in tankers outside the strait, worth $18 billion
  • Trump was monitoring the situation from a UFC fight in Miami instead of the Situation Room
" We've had a number of substantive discussions with the Iranians. That's the good news. The bad news is that we have not reached an agreement. And I think that's bad news for Iran much more than it's bad news for the United States of America. "
" Insofar as it's not good news if your plane flies almost all the way to your destination and then crashes. It's just that mountain at the end. "
" You're too good looking to be a fighter. You are so fighter. "

Trump's Holy War with Pope Leo

Trump launched an unprecedented public attack on Pope Leo after the pontiff criticized Trump's immigration policies and the Iran war. Trump called the Pope "weak on crime" and "weak on nuclear weapons," while posting an AI image of himself as Jesus healing the sick. Pope Leo, the first American pope from Chicago, responded calmly, saying he has no fear of speaking out about the gospel message of peacemaking.

  • Pope Leo and three powerful American cardinals spoke out on 60 Minutes against Trump's war and immigration policies
  • Trump posted calling Pope Leo 'weak on crime' and warned him to 'get his act together'
  • Trump posted an AI image of himself as Jesus healing the sick (or possibly Jeffrey Epstein)
  • Pope Leo said he has 'no fear' of the Trump administration and will continue speaking about the gospel
  • JD Vance claimed the Vatican should stick to 'matters of morality' rather than war and peace
" Pope Leo is weak on crime "
" I have no fear of neither the Trump administration nor speaking out loudly about the message in the gospel. I am called to do what the church is called to do. Blessed are the peacemakers. "
" It wasn't a picture. It was me. I did post it. And I thought it was me as a doctor and had to do with Red Cross as a Red Cross worker there, which we support. "

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