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In this episode of TED Talks Daily, Molly Graham discusses her viral 2024 TED Talk about building careers through risk-taking rather than traditional ladder-climbing. As the new host of TED's WorkLife podcast, she shares insights on embracing being a beginner, managing the emotional side of work, distinguishing between good and bad fear, and reinventing yourself at midlife. The conversation explores how to navigate career decisions authentically, separate personal programming from genuine desires, and find meaning in work during uncertain times.
The Illusion of the Stairs and Jumping Off Cliffs
Molly challenges the traditional career narrative that success comes from knowing exactly what you want and climbing a predetermined ladder. She introduces the metaphor of 'jumping off cliffs' as taking career risks that lead to transformative growth. Drawing from her own experience leaving HR at Facebook for an unfamiliar project, she describes the terror of feeling incompetent for nine months before eventually gaining confidence and capabilities she never would have developed staying on the safe path.
- The 'stairs' metaphor represents the pressure to know your career path from college major through promotions, creating an illusion of safety and security
- Excellent careers today are built by taking risks and jumping off cliffs, not by being excellent stair climbers
- Molly's first major career risk at age 25 involved leaving HR to start a risky new project she knew nothing about
- The first nine months felt like falling off a steep cliff - going from competent to feeling like an idiot constantly
- After nine months, a successful meeting marked the turning point where she felt confident and capable again
" These days, excellent careers are not built by excellent stair climbers. Said differently, one of the most important things you can get good at in your career is taking risks, or, as I like to call it, jumping off cliffs. "
" That's the thing about jumping off cliffs. It doesn't just take you a couple flights up on the stairs. It's like a weird elevator that takes you to a whole new place. "
Three Skills for Getting Good at Cliff Jumping
Molly outlines three essential competencies for successfully taking career risks. First is actually making the jump by distinguishing between fear worth listening to (financial insecurity) and fear that signals opportunity (fear of failure). Second is surviving the emotional roller coaster of being a beginner again by expecting the mess and using the 'give it two weeks' rule. Third is becoming a 'professional idiot' who asks seemingly dumb questions that often reveal crucial insights everyone else was afraid to voice.
- Learn to distinguish between fear about running out of money (listen to this) versus fear of failure (a green light to jump)
- Surviving the fall means accepting the emotional roller coaster of being a beginner and using 'give it two weeks' as a barometer
- Becoming a professional idiot means getting comfortable asking 'stupid questions' which often aren't actually stupid
- The phrase 'sorry if this is a stupid question, but' makes people want to teach you what they know
" The trick is to learn to tell the difference between the kind of fear that says i'm scared i might run out of money which you should actually listen to and the kind of fear that says i'm scared i might fail which you should take as a giant green flashing light to jump "
" Questions like, can you define that word for me? Why are we doing this? Why are we having this meeting? embracing being a professional idiot often actually makes you the most valuable person in the room "
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