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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

Shawn Ryan: There's A Battle For Your Soul, It's Happening Right Now

October 01, 2026 • 1h 39m

Summary

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Overview

Sean Ryan, former Navy SEAL and CIA contractor turned podcaster, shares his extraordinary journey from special operations to building one of the world's biggest podcasts. He opens up about his disillusionment with Trump and politics, his dangerous years in Colombia's drug networks, and a harrowing recent experience with psychedelics that he believes was hell. Ryan discusses what he sees as infiltration of podcasting by intelligence assets, his ongoing exorcisms after supernatural experiences, and his deepening faith journey while navigating the tension between business ambition and being present for his family.

From Navy SEAL to CIA Contractor: The Adrenaline Addiction

Ryan describes his military career path from enlisting in the Navy at 17 through SEAL training and multiple deployments to Iraq, Afghanistan, and Haiti. He explains how the SEAL teams changed him fundamentally, increasing his drive and stress tolerance but also creating an addiction to adrenaline and dangerous environments. After leaving the military, he transitioned into CIA contracting work, drawn by the continued access to high-stakes operational environments that civilian life couldn't provide.

  • Enlisted in US Navy at age 17, spent 5.5 years as a Navy SEAL with deployments to Haiti, Afghanistan, and Iraq
  • SEAL training dramatically increased personal drive and understanding of human capability, but also created addiction to adrenaline and high-stress environments
  • Transitioned to CIA contracting through Blackwater and other companies after leaving the Navy
  • First exposure to true warfare was in Haiti in 2004 during the Aristide crisis, witnessing extreme poverty and chaos
  • Most significant combat experience came in Iraq, training conventional units to hunt terrorists killing American troops
" You learn a lot of critical life lessons in the SEAL teams and be in environments like that. And your personal drive just goes through the roof. What you realize that you can accomplish as a human being is far more than, I think, what the normal person thinks. "
" There's another side too. You get addicted to adrenaline. You get addicted to those type of environments. You succumb to the culture that comes with that which is a lot of drinking, fighting, all those things. "

Podcaster Infiltration and Political Disillusionment

Ryan reveals his belief that podcasters and influencers are being compromised through planted guests and strategic capture by political administrations. He explains how the Trump administration successfully used podcasts during the election cycle but then captured influencers by photographing them at events, making them appear tribal. Ryan discusses turning down White House invites to maintain independence and shares his dramatic shift from supporting Trump to deep disillusionment with his presidency, particularly regarding the Iran situation.

  • Believes both podcast guests and hosts are being planted by intelligence agencies, sometimes without the podcasters' knowledge
  • Trump administration captured influencers by inviting them to public events and photographing them, creating appearance of being on one team
  • Ryan has turned down multiple invites to White House and other events to avoid being captured and losing independence
  • Suspects people inside major platforms like YouTube and Meta are intelligence assets under corporate cover
  • Despite initially supporting Trump, Ryan now deeply regrets it and is unhappy with everything happening under the administration
  • Believes America is involved in Iran conflict for Israel's interests, not American interests, based on feedback from military colleagues
" They can no longer be a free thinker because maybe they are a free thinker, but the appearance that they just gave off is that they are in a tribe. And they were smart to do this and I've had several invites. I always turn it down because no, I don't know. I'm not doing that. "
" Have you changed your opinion on Trump now? Oh, yeah. For a multitude of reasons. I probably shouldn't even be saying this, but. "
" I think that these are seemingly more and more to be one and the same. "

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