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Marina Hyde and Richard Osman discuss the evolving landscape of court reporting through podcasts, focusing on the Russell Brand trial coverage and the media ecosystem around high-profile cases. They also explore the phenomenon of Nathan Fielder's Elizabeth Holmes documentary 'You Can See Everything,' which has become a box office sensation and potential Oscar contender, raising questions about the blurred lines between documentary and entertainment.
The Yawn Gate Experiment
In a tangential but entertaining opening, Marina and Richard tested Richard's claim that people don't automatically yawn when others do - a trait sometimes associated with psychopathy. When tested on 1,500 people at a Cheltenham event, only about three people agreed with Richard's position, with Marina declaring the audience 'weak' for their susceptibility to contagious yawning.
- Richard doesn't yawn when others yawn, which Marina suggested indicates psychopathy
- They tested this on 1,500 people in Cheltenham, with only three agreeing with Richard
- Marina called Richard a psychopath; Richard called the audience weak
" I just said it is a very recognised sign of a psychopath that they don't yawn when someone else yawns. Because you don't empathise with their tiredness. "
" I said that the audience was weak. "
The Rise of Court Reporting Podcasts
Major media outlets have launched trial-focused podcasts covering the Russell Brand case, marking a significant shift in how courts are covered. This evolution stems from the success of The Mail's 'Trial of Lucy Letby' podcast, which attracted millions of listeners by having actors perform courtroom exchanges from reporters' shorthand notes. The trend represents media organizations repurposing existing court reporting into audio formats as audiences migrate away from written content toward video and audio.
- Five major outlets launched podcasts about the Russell Brand trial, all appearing in the top 20
- The Mail's Lucy Letby trial podcast pioneered this format, now expanded to 300 episodes covering various trials
- Court reporters are disappearing at an alarming rate, making new formats commercially necessary
- These podcasts repurpose work reporters already do, extending 30-second reports into deeper half-hour discussions
" I don't say print anymore if it's online, but written content have now moved much more towards video and audio formats, which is why everyone is pivoting to these different ways of providing. "
" We're losing court reporters at an incredible rate in this country, and it's really, really significant that we do have them. "
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