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Foreign Secretary Ed Miliband joins the podcast for an in-depth discussion about Britain's recent sanctions against Israeli settlers and the illegality of the occupation, marking one of the boldest statements on Israel-Palestine by a UK government in recent years. The conversation explores whether Britain can still make a meaningful difference on the world stage, the challenges of navigating the Middle East crisis including Gaza and Iran, and the broader question of how middle powers like the UK should respond to a changing global order where US hegemony is declining and new alliances are needed.
Historic Sanctions Against Israeli Settlers and Occupation
Ed Miliband discusses the government's groundbreaking decision to impose sanctions on Israeli settlers and formally declare the occupation illegal. He explains this isn't about delegitimizing Israel but about preserving the two-state solution, which is being destroyed by facts on the ground. The sanctions target the supply lines of British finance and construction supporting settlement expansion, particularly the E1 settlement which would split East Jerusalem from the West Bank and make a Palestinian state unviable.
- UK has sanctioned individual Israeli government members Ben-Gvir and Smotrich for encouraging settler violence
- The government confirmed the illegality of the occupation based on its length, permanence, and displacement of Palestinians
- E1 settlement expansion has long been seen as a red line because it would make a Palestinian state unviable
- The sanctions aim to cut off British finance and construction supporting settlement expansion
" Mouthing platitudes about the two-state solution while seeing it destroyed was just no good. "
" We are trying to uphold the long-standing vision of successive British governments for a two-state solution. And we see the two-state solution being destroyed by the facts on the ground. "
The Humanitarian Catastrophe in Gaza
The discussion turns to the devastating situation in Gaza, where British doctors have witnessed unspeakable horrors including children dying from lack of basic medical treatment and deliberate denial of humanitarian aid. Miliband acknowledges increasing evidence of war crimes and discusses the frustration of not being able to do more while Israel maintains control of the territory. He commits to meeting with British doctors who have worked in Gaza and viewing their documentary footage.
- Since the ceasefire, 1,200 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza
- Aid workers report deliberate delays or denial of medicines, with children dying waiting for basic medical treatment
- So-called dual-use goods are stopped from entering even when they are innocent medical supplies
- UK will host a conference at UN General Assembly with Jordan on the health and humanitarian crisis
" Nothing can justify what has unfolded in Gaza since then. And actually, it's worth saying, since the ceasefire, the so-called ceasefire, 1200 Palestinians have been killed. "
" The harsh spotlight of truth about what is happening is essential. "
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