The Second Captains Podcast
The Second Captains Podcast

Liverpool Lack Anger, The Dutch Perspective On Slot, Tantalising World Cup

November 28, 2025

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Overview

A Second Captains podcast episode analyzing Liverpool's crisis under manager Arne Slot, featuring insights from Dutch journalist Mikos Gouda about Slot's philosophy and a passionate assessment from Graeme Souness about the team's lack of fight and leadership. The episode also touches on Ireland's World Cup qualification hopes and the possibility of recruiting England players with Irish heritage.

Arne Slot's Tactical Philosophy and Its Limitations

Dutch journalist Mikos Gouda discusses Slot's data-driven approach to football, revealing his controversial belief that Germany and Spain were the best teams at the 2022 World Cup despite their poor results. This philosophy prioritizes possession and attacking play over defensive pragmatism, with Slot believing teams should be judged on how they play rather than results. The conversation explores whether this one-dimensional view has left Liverpool vulnerable, particularly Slot's apparent blindness to the importance of fight and physicality that teams like Japan demonstrated.

  • Slot believed Germany and Spain were the best teams at 2022 World Cup based on data, not results
  • Japan beat both Germany and Spain but Slot doesn't rate captain Endo who played for Japan
  • Slot was almost embarrassed after Liverpool beat PSG 1-0, feeling they didn't deserve the win
  • Slot prefers attacking dominance over pragmatic wins, even for big clubs
  • He values managers like Luis Enrique who prioritize possession and attacking football
" If you look at the data, I don't know if it's the perfect English word for it. What about looking at the matches? "
" These two teams for me were the best teams except for Argentina, of course, because he liked Messi so much. But he said, the way they played, they are on to something bigger. "
" Yeah, the way we play, this is why we are Liverpool, why we are a top club. And, yeah, we came close. And the penalty is also, penalty series is always a lottery. You can win, you can lose. So he was more happy with the defeat than with the win. "

Graeme Souness on Liverpool's Leadership Crisis

Former Liverpool captain Graeme Souness delivers a scathing assessment of the current team's mentality after their 3-0 defeats. He questions whether they have real leaders, revealing he called a former Liverpool teammate who confirmed nobody was getting angry on the pitch. Souness emphasizes that great teams need just one strong leader who others will follow, and he's not convinced Virgil van Dijk fulfills that role despite wearing the armband.

  • Liverpool lost 3-0 twice in a row for first time in 60 years
  • Souness called a former Liverpool teammate who said the players had 'gone' and nobody was angry
  • You only need one leader in a dressing room, then others follow
  • Souness questions whether Van Dijk is truly that leader
" People that were talking about being great players, are they really great players? Because now you find out about great players. "
" Half past five on Saturday, I phoned an old player, a pal of mine, we played in the same team at Liverpool, won everything together. And I phoned him, I said, what has happened today? And he said, Chels, you wouldn't believe what's happened. And he said they gone. "
" Was anyone getting angry with anyone on the pitch? She said no. Her head's rolled down. That's not a good sign. "

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