Summary
Overview
In this final episode of The Spy Who series on Mata Hari, host Charlie Hickson interviews Julie Wheelwright, author of 'The Fatal Lover: Mata Hari and the Myth of Women in Espionage.' They explore the complexities of Mata Hari's life, from her traumatic childhood and abusive marriage to her reinvention as an exotic dancer and eventual role as a spy during World War I. Wheelwright shares newly discovered evidence from British archives that sheds light on Mata Hari's activities in Madrid and challenges previous theories about her execution, while arguing against portraying her simply as either a femme fatale or a victim.
Julie Wheelwright's Discovery of Mata Hari
Julie Wheelwright recounts how she first became fascinated with Mata Hari after accidentally discovering her interrogation records at the National Archives. She was intrigued by the dynamic between Mata Hari and Sir Basil Thompson of Scotland Yard, particularly Mata Hari's confidence despite being in custody with 12 trunks of luggage. This initial encounter led to decades of research into one of history's most enigmatic figures.
- Wheelwright discovered Mata Hari's story by accident while researching at the National Archives after a friend recommended reading her interrogation
- The interrogation between Mata Hari and Sir Basil Thompson revealed a woman who confidently deflected questions despite being in a position of danger
- Mata Hari was traveling through war-torn Europe in 1916 with 12 trunks of luggage, including riding boots, lingerie, and cigarettes
- Wheelwright initially thought of Mata Hari as similar to Rocky and Bullwinkle's Natasha Fatale character
" I couldn't figure her out. Well, for one thing, she's very intriguing to me because she's a woman, you know, it's 1916. She's in a police cell in London. She's under suspicion and she's really in a difficult position. And she kind of bats away what Sir Basil, you know, these questions that Sir Basil Thompson is putting to her. "
Mata Hari's Tumultuous Early Life
Mata Hari's childhood was marked by dramatic reversals of fortune. She grew up privileged in Leeuwarden with a wealthy father who lavished her with gifts, but by age 13 her father went bankrupt, her mother died of tuberculosis, and the family broke apart. She escaped into a disastrous marriage with John McLeod, who abused her, infected her with venereal disease, and cut off her alimony payments, forcing her into increasingly desperate circumstances.
- Mata Hari's father made hats and was wealthy enough to buy her a goat cart and fashionable Parisian clothes, making her feel special and exceptional
- By age 13, her father's business went bankrupt, her mother died of tuberculosis, and she was sent to live with relatives
- Her marriage to John McLeod was abusive and he infected her with venereal disease
- McLeod continually frustrated her alimony payments, leaving her with no means of supporting herself
- Despite everyone expecting her to fail, she became a huge celebrity by 1905
" She kind of goes from a position of being really regarded as exceptional. And then she affects this terrible marriage with this man named John McLeod. And she thinks that she's married an aristocrat and discovers that he's the black sheep of the family. "
" There's this pattern of terrible tragedy followed by her finding some way of pulling herself out in the sort of most unexpected and most extraordinary way. "
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