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#872: Graham Duncan — Talent Is the Best Asset Class (Repost)

July 01, 2026 • 1h 34m

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Overview

Graham Duncan, co-founder of East Rock Capital and expert in talent evaluation, discusses his framework for identifying exceptional investors and building high-performing teams. The conversation explores mental models for career development, techniques for surfacing hidden assumptions, the importance of balancing intensity with integrity, and practical approaches to making the most of limited time. Duncan shares insights from evaluating over a thousand investment teams annually and offers frameworks applicable far beyond finance.

The Art of Talent Hunting and Portfolio Management

Graham Duncan describes his core skill as finding people better at specific tasks than he is and placing them in positive feedback loops. At age 24, running an independent research firm, he had an epiphany when challenged by a salesperson about his role—realizing his gift was seeing potential in others and positioning them correctly. Today, he applies this philosophy as a 'general contractor' for family wealth management, meeting over 1,000 investment teams annually to find the best craftsmen in various strategies.

  • Duncan's primary skill is identifying talent and placing people in roles where they naturally excel, acting on what he's 'compulsive about and interested in'
  • At 24, realized his value wasn't in analysis or sales but in recognizing that a job applicant's persistent stalking behavior indicated he'd be an excellent salesperson
  • Today acts as 'general contractor' for families managing approximately $2 billion, meeting 1,000+ investment teams yearly
  • Philosophy: 'My mission in life is to get as many people as possible into positive feedback loops'
" What the fuck do you do here? I sat there for 30 seconds because it's like what the fuck do I do. I finally said, you know, Robert, when you first interviewed to come to our firm you were applying to be an analyst and I didn't see your eyes light up. But then you proceeded to stalk me for the following four weeks. I had this moment of revelation. Robert should be our salesperson. "

Taste in People: The Tension Between Intensity and Integrity

Duncan describes his evolved taste in people as identifying those who can hold multiple tensions simultaneously, like musical instruments playing different notes. He focuses particularly on the tension between intensity and humility, or aggression and integrity. The best investors, exemplified by David Tepper, can be extremely aggressive in positions while maintaining ethical cores—what Goldman Sachs calls being 'commercial' rather than transactional, creating more value than they capture.

  • People are like musical instruments—their range depends on the tensions they've learned to hold
  • Key tension in investing: intensity/aggression balanced with integrity/humility
  • David Tepper exemplifies the ideal: willing to go from 0% to 20% of fund in single position instantly, yet maintains ethical core
  • 'Commercial' people create more value than they capture; transactional people try to capture all value
" I like a framing I read once that people like musical instruments and the range of notes they can play is dependent on the range of tensions that they've learned to hold. "
" People who are commercial, who balance that tension of aggression and integrity or aggression and humility, they tend to clump together. They like doing business with each other. "

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