Freakonomics Radio
Freakonomics co-author Stephen J. Dubner uncovers the hidden side of everything. Why is it safer to fly in an airplane than drive a car? How do we decide whom to marry? Why is the media so full of bad news? Also: things you never knew you wanted to know about wolves, bananas, pollution, search engines, and the quirks of human behavior. To get every show in the Freakonomics Radio Network without ads and a monthly bonus episode of Freakonomics Radio, start a free trial for SiriusXM Podcasts+ on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.
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SNL writer and Weekend Update anchor Michael Che joins Trevor and Eugene in this episode preview. Watch What Now? with Trevor Noah on Youtube or tune-in anywhere you listen to podcasts. Hosted by S...
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This bonus episode features an excerpt from 'What Now? with Trevor Noah,' where SNL comedian Michael Che discusses the intersection of money, fame, and race in America. The conversation explores how financial success and celebrity status affect the black experience, touching on themes of freedom, access, discrimination, and the unique pressures faced by black performers who stepped into roles previously held by beloved white predecessors on major platforms like SNL and The Daily Show.
- Money as Freedom for Black Americans
- Fame vs. Money: What Really Grants Access
693. What’s Our Job as Humans Anymore?
Oct 30, 2026It may just be being human. Stephen Dubner interviews A.I. performer Tilly Norwood to find out if we are as replaceable as we fear. (Part two of a two-part series.) SOURCES:Sean Astin, actor, presi...
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Freakonomics Radio explores how AI is reshaping human creativity in this two-part series finale. The episode features interviews with SAG-AFTRA president Sean Astin on union protections against AI, economist Joel Waldfogel on the 'random long tail' theory of creative disruption, tech optimist Kevin Kelly on AI as a creative tool, filmmaker Aline van der Velden defending her AI creation, and culminates in an extended conversation with Tilly Norwood—an AI-generated actor. The episode examines whether AI threatens or enhances human creativity by drawing parallels to past technological disruptions and exploring current tensions between innovation and labor protection.
- Hollywood's AI Reckoning: SAG-AFTRA's Fight for Control
- The Random Long Tail: Lessons from Digital Disruption
Writers, designers, actors, coders, musicians, thinkers — they’re all worried about being replaced by machines. But what if the A.I.s are actually here to help? (Part one of a two-part series.) SOU...
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This Freakonomics Radio episode explores how AI is reshaping human creativity across the entertainment industry. Host Stephen Dubner speaks with technologist Kevin Kelly about the concept of an 'exo-self' - an always-on AI companion - and interviews filmmaker Aline van der Velden about creating Tilly Norwood, an AI-generated performer. The episode also features academic Ethan Mollick discussing AI's impact on creative work, and SAG-AFTRA president Sean Astin voicing concerns about AI threatening actors' livelihoods. The conversation examines whether AI enhances or threatens human creativity, with perspectives ranging from enthusiastic optimism to existential concern.
- The Exo-Self: AI as Your Better Half
- Creating Tilly Norwood: An AI Performer
They say they make companies more efficient through savvy management. Critics say they bend the rules to enrich themselves at the expense of consumers and employees. Can they both be right? (Probably ...
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This episode explores the private equity industry's growing influence over the American economy, examining both its business model and its impact on workers, consumers, and communities. Through detailed case studies including ManorCare nursing homes, Fairway Market grocery stores, and mobile home parks, the episode investigates whether private equity firms are creating value or plundering American businesses, while featuring perspectives from a DOJ prosecutor-turned-author, a private equity insider, and those directly affected by PE takeovers.
- The Rise of Private Equity and Its Hidden Reach
- The ManorCare Nursing Home Tragedy
691. Is This What a “Good Billionaire” Looks Like?
Oct 16, 2026David Rubenstein, a product of the old bipartisan D.C., made his fortune in private equity. He’s been spending it on “patriotic philanthropy” and institutions like the Kennedy Center, where Trump fire...
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David Rubenstein, billionaire co-founder of the Carlyle Group, discusses his journey from working-class Baltimore to becoming a major figure in private equity, sports ownership, and patriotic philanthropy. Now the majority owner of the Baltimore Orioles, Rubenstein shares insights on sports team economics, the challenges facing Major League Baseball, and his extensive philanthropic work restoring national monuments and founding documents. He reflects on America's political dysfunction, the erosion of bipartisanship, and his unexpected firing from the Kennedy Center by President Trump.
- From Private Equity to Baseball Ownership
- The Business Model of Modern Baseball
690. It’s Show Business, Baby!
Oct 09, 2026Podcasting started as a niche-nerd pursuit. Now it’s a $9 billion industry. Is that a lot? The strange economics of this thing we do. SOURCES:Jim Bankoff, chairman and C.E.O. of Vox Media.Ben Davi...
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Stephen Dubner pulls back the curtain on the podcast industry, exploring its business models, economics, and uncertain future. Through conversations with producers, agents, economists, and executives, the episode examines how an industry that generates $9 billion globally actually works—from RSS feeds and ad sales to AI-generated content and the ongoing struggle for standardized measurement. The discussion reveals an industry at a crossroads, grappling with profitability, valuation bubbles, and the tension between human creativity and artificial intelligence.
- The Podcast Industry's Humble Economics
- What Makes a Successful Podcast
689. Here’s Why Your Hamburger Just Got So Pricey
Oct 02, 2026An economist calls America’s beef industry a “miracle.” An antitrust scholar calls it “broken.” Maybe they’re both right? SOURCES:Austin Frerick, agriculture antitrust expert, fellow at Yale Unive...
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This episode explores the American beef industry's complexity, from supply chain mechanics to pricing pressures and consolidation concerns. With beef prices rising faster than inflation despite record demand, the discussion examines cyclical cattle production, the disassembly market's unique challenges, the dominance of four major packers controlling 85% of processing, and debates over whether industry concentration helps or harms consumers and ranchers.
- The Complexity of the Beef Industry
- The Ground Beef Paradox
688. When Is a Bet Not a Bet?
Sep 25, 2026That’s the question at the heart of a battle between Kalshi and state gambling regulators. As prediction markets boom, there are other questions, too — about insider trading, market manipulation, and ...
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This episode examines prediction markets through multiple perspectives, focusing on Kalshi's regulatory approach and the fundamental questions about whether these markets constitute gambling or financial trading. The discussion explores risks including insider trading, regulatory challenges from states, competition from offshore platforms, and potential backlash, while considering the broader implications for financial markets and information aggregation.
- The Fundamental Nature of Prediction Markets: Gambling vs. Financial Trading
- Economist Robin Hanson on Market Accuracy and the Gambling Distinction
The promise is that they can beat the experts at predicting inflation, elections, and FDA approvals. But right now, 90 percent of the action is sports. Is this a future we want to bet on? Stephen Dubn...
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Freakonomics Radio explores the rise of prediction markets through an in-depth look at Kalshi, America's first federally regulated prediction market exchange. The episode examines how these markets aggregate information through financial incentives, their potential to improve decision-making across society, and the tensions between their promise as information tools and their reality as primarily sports betting platforms. Featuring Kalshi CEO Tarek Mansour, chief contract writer Nicole Kagan, and prediction market pioneer Robin Hanson, the discussion covers everything from the regulatory journey to the philosophical foundations of using markets to forecast the future.
- The Origins and Promise of Prediction Markets
- Tarek Mansour's Journey: Building Kalshi the Hard Way
He was thriving in the N.F.L., but then he decided to focus on mathematics — a subject he now teaches at M.I.T. John walks Stephen Dubner through the whole story, teaches him some blocking techniques,...
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Stephen Dubner interviews John Urschel, a remarkable individual who succeeded at the highest levels in two vastly different fields: as an NFL offensive lineman for the Baltimore Ravens and as a mathematics PhD student at MIT. The conversation explores how Urschel managed to pursue both careers simultaneously, his early love of math fostered by unconventional childhood experiences, the physical demands of professional football, and his ultimate decision to retire from the NFL to focus on mathematics and family. Urschel candidly discusses the role of luck versus talent, the culture of football, and how marriage and parenthood changed his perspective on life's priorities.
- Early Mathematical Origins and Unusual Childhood Education
- Football Dreams and the Penn State Journey
686. Why Is It So Hard to Find an NFL Quarterback?
Sep 11, 2026For decades, teams have tried (and mostly failed) to predict which college quarterbacks will thrive in the pros. Is the science finally catching up? Stephen Dubner speaks with a scout, a psychologist,...
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This Freakonomics Radio episode explores why predicting NFL quarterback success is one of the hardest problems in professional sports. Despite mountains of college data and sophisticated combine testing, teams consistently miss on can't-miss prospects while overlooking future Hall of Famers like Kurt Warner and Tom Brady. The episode examines traditional scouting methods, new cognitive testing approaches like the AIQ, and emerging AI-powered prediction models that attempt to solve the quarterback prediction problem.
- The Quarterback Prediction Problem
- Kurt Warner's Unlikely Journey
Amazon Was Supposed to Kill the Bookstore. James Daunt Had Other Plans | Better in Person
Sep 09, 2026He started with one small shop in London. He has since resuscitated both Barnes & Noble and Waterstones. He tells Stephen Dubner exactly how he does it. If you'd like to see the video version of Be...
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James Daunt, the man who revolutionized bookstore chains by rejecting conventional retail wisdom, shares his unlikely journey from investment banking to saving Barnes & Noble and Waterstones. This conversation explores how he transformed failing corporate bookstore chains by decentralizing control, eliminating marketing budgets, empowering local booksellers, and focusing relentlessly on quality and the long-term — principles that sound almost quaint in today's business culture but have proven remarkably successful.
- From Banking to Bookselling: An Unconventional Beginning
- The Philosophy of Long-Term Quality Over Short-Term Gains
685. How to Survive the A.I. Shock
Sep 04, 2026Gina Raimondo, a former commerce secretary and governor, thinks A.I. will create plenty of jobs in the long run. She also thinks a poorly managed transition could tear the country apart. So she came u...
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Former Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo discusses her new nonprofit Raise Us, which aims to manage the AI transition in the workforce and prevent mass unemployment. Drawing lessons from the China shock and her experience implementing the CHIPS Act, she argues for proactive collaboration between government, employers, and tech companies to retrain workers and create intentional transitions rather than reactive crisis management.
- The AI Transition Challenge and Learning from Past Mistakes
- Corporate Profits vs. Worker Wages and the Case for Reformed Capitalism
Anne Pasternak (Brooklyn Museum) and Michael Roth (Wesleyan University) tell Stephen Dubner how they keep the peace in the middle of a culture war. If you'd like to see the video version of Bett...
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In this conversation, Anne Pasternak, director of the Brooklyn Museum, and Michael Roth, president of Wesleyan University, discuss the challenges and rewards of leading cultural and educational institutions during an era of declining trust in institutions. They explore topics including museum accessibility, university costs, responding to October 7th and its aftermath, free speech on campus, the role of AI in education and museums, and what makes their jobs both difficult and deeply meaningful.
- Leading Institutions in an Anti-Institution Era
- The Brooklyn Museum's Mission and Financial Reality
How to Return Stolen Art (Update)
Aug 28, 2026Museums are purging their collections of looted treasures. Can they also get something in return? And what does it mean to be a museum in the 21st century? (Part 3 of an updated series originally publ...
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This episode explores the complex landscape of art repatriation, focusing on the Benin bronzes looted by Britain in 1897. The discussion examines how museums are grappling with their colonial past and developing new ethical frameworks for returning stolen artifacts, featuring perspectives from curators at Glasgow Museums, the Smithsonian, and the Metropolitan Museum of Art. The episode investigates practical solutions like long-term lease agreements and shared stewardship arrangements that balance repatriation with continued public access to cultural treasures.
- The Benin Bronzes at Glasgow Museums
- The Metropolitan Museum's Failures and New Approaches
The Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist Jennifer Egan talks about confidence, luck, and why it takes 35 drafts to get to the finish line. If you'd like to see the video version of Better in Person, you ...
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Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist Jennifer Egan discusses her creative process, from her writer's group feedback sessions to her meticulous outlining methods. She reflects on the challenges of writing historical fiction versus experimental narratives, the role of empathy in creating authentic characters, and how she approaches endings. Egan also opens up about her brother's schizophrenia and suicide, her relationship with awards and recognition, and her strong resistance to AI in creative work.
- Writing Process and Aesthetic Principles
- From Goon Squad to Historical Fiction
Is a Museum Just a Trophy Case? (Update)
Aug 21, 2026The world’s great museums are full of art and artifacts that were plundered during an era when plunder was the norm. Now there’s a push to return these works to their rightful owners. Sounds simple, r...
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This episode explores the complex issue of repatriating the Benin Bronzes - thousands of artifacts looted by British forces from the Kingdom of Benin (in modern Nigeria) in 1897. While museums worldwide are increasingly returning looted art, the Benin Bronzes case reveals deep complications around ownership, cultural heritage, colonial legacy, and practical challenges of restitution. The episode examines perspectives from prosecutors, curators, historians, and Nigerian artists, ultimately revealing that giving stolen art back is far more complicated than the theft itself.
- The Push for Art Repatriation
- The Complexity of Historical Ownership
Meet Warren Zanes, the Author and Rocker Behind the Springsteen Movie | Better in Person
Aug 19, 2026When he joined the Del Fuegos, his big brother’s band, all Warren knew how to play was a record player. Things went great for a while — and then it all fell apart. So how did he wind up writing defini...
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Warren Zanes, former Del Fuegos guitarist turned rock biographer, shares his journey from being pushed out of his brother's band to writing intimate biographies of Tom Petty and Bruce Springsteen. The conversation explores themes of family, addiction, reinvention, and the complex relationship between success and creative fulfillment in rock and roll.
- The Night Bruce Springsteen Walked In
- Brotherhood and Band Dynamics
The Case of the $4 Million Gold Coffin (Update)
Aug 14, 2026How did a freshly looted Egyptian antiquity end up in the Metropolitan Museum of Art? Why did it take Kim Kardashian to crack the case? And how much of what you see in any museum is stolen? (Part 1 of...
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This episode explores the world of stolen art and antiquities trafficking, following Manhattan DA prosecutor Matthew Bogdanos as he investigates looted artifacts. The episode examines how museums acquire questionable pieces, the economics of the antiquities market, legal frameworks for repatriation, and the complicated ethics of returning cultural treasures to their countries of origin.
- The $4 Million Gold Coffin Case
- The Economics of the Antiquities Market
Angela Buchdahl was the first Asian American to be ordained as a rabbi, and now she is among the most influential rabbis in the world. She and Stephen Dubner talk about boundary-crossing, the aftermat...
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Rabbi Angela Buchdahl, the first Asian American ordained as both a cantor and rabbi, discusses her remarkable journey from being a biracial child in Korea to leading New York's Central Synagogue. This conversation explores her unique perspective on faith, identity, and belonging, as well as the challenges of being a prominent Jewish leader in today's polarized world. Buchdahl shares insights on Judaism's wisdom, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and how ancient Jewish traditions offer solutions to modern problems of division and binary thinking.
- The Unlikely Path to Becoming a Rabbi
- The Awe Business: Finding Meaning in Death and Life