The Joe Rogan Experience
The Joe Rogan Experience

#2416 - Dan Farah

November 21, 2025 • 2h 30m

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Overview

Joe Rogan interviews filmmaker Jay Anderson about his documentary 'The Age of Disclosure,' which features 34 high-level government officials, military personnel, and intelligence operatives discussing UFOs, secret crash retrieval programs, and reverse engineering of non-human technology. The conversation explores decades of government secrecy, the race with China to understand alien technology, biological effects from encounters, remote viewing programs, and the urgent need for transparency and amnesty to move forward.

The Documentary and Government Secrecy

Jay Anderson discusses his documentary featuring unprecedented access to government officials who reveal a deeply hidden legacy program involving UFO crash retrievals and reverse engineering. The film addresses why disclosure has been difficult—decades of lies to Congress, misappropriation of over a trillion dollars, and clear felonies that could expose countless people. Anderson explains how he gave whistleblowers safety in numbers, allowing them to come forward together rather than face ridicule and threats alone.

  • Documentary features high-level government employees discussing secret access programs and back engineering programs going on for decades
  • The legacy program has lied to Congress, sitting presidents, and misappropriated enormous amounts of money—clear felonies
  • Over a trillion dollars has been spent on the deeply hidden program since the 1940s
  • Thousands of people work full-time jobs in this deeply hidden program, living normal lives on the outside
  • High-level operatives can absolutely keep secrets when their reputation and lives are threatened
" If you have complete access to enormous amounts of money that's not under any oversight at all, for sure, some of it went in the pockets of people that probably shouldn't have got it. "
" The idea that people can't keep secrets. Shut the fuck up. Yes, they can. If you're told your reputation...by the time you get to be a high-level operative in the United States government, I'm guessing you can keep a fucking secret. "

The Bob Lazar Connection and Reverse Engineering

Anderson credits the Bob Lazar documentary as reigniting his interest in UFOs, noting that Lazar's 1980s descriptions of compartmentalized reverse engineering programs match exactly what current whistleblowers are saying. The discussion covers how technology and craft have been recovered, studied in secret facilities, and kept so compartmentalized that scientists working on different aspects weren't allowed to communicate with each other.

  • Bob Lazar's story from the 1980s exactly matches what people are saying today about reverse engineering programs
  • Everything was compartmentalized—metallurgists couldn't talk to propulsion experts, all working on different aspects
  • Bob Lazar described how the craft seemed 3D printed with no seams, using gravity-defying propulsion
" What Lazar is describing from the 1980s is exactly what these people are saying now. They've had these things. They've been trying to figure them out. "

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