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Dr. Robert Malone returns to the Joe Rogan Experience nearly five years after their controversial first interview during the COVID-19 pandemic. This conversation covers the vindication of Malone's early warnings, the weaponization of propaganda and psychological warfare, vaccine policy, mass formation psychosis, emerging biotechnology threats, and the potential for meaningful reform under the current administration. Malone discusses his current role advising HHS and his perspective on how information control, censorship, and coordinated attacks against dissenting voices shaped the pandemic response.
Vindication and Reflection on the First Interview
Malone reflects on how his warnings from nearly five years ago have been proven correct, despite facing intense attempts to discredit him. He discusses the coordinated attack that followed their first interview, including how Coca-Cola complained to the Global Alliance for Responsible Media, which then pressured Spotify. The aftermath included being labeled an "anti-vaxxer" despite being a vaccinologist with nine mRNA vaccine patents. What seemed controversial then is now widely accepted as accurate information about COVID policies and treatments.
- Nearly five years since the last interview, Malone's warnings about COVID have been vindicated
- Malone has nine patents on mRNA vaccine technology and about 15 patents total
- He took the vaccine himself and had a series of horrible adverse events
- His cardiologist asked why he was "so stupid" to take the vaccine in 2021
" Like, this is a victory dance. Like, it turned out that all your warnings and all the things that you were saying about the problems turned out to be true. "
Why Malone Took the Vaccine Despite His Expertise
Malone explains his decision to take the mRNA vaccine despite being one of the inventors of the technology. He encountered inflammation and distribution problems in his early research, but colleagues at University of British Columbia convinced him these issues had been solved. He needed to travel internationally and was also dealing with long COVID symptoms. In retrospect, he acknowledges this decision raised questions about his judgment, though the context of fear and limited information at the time played a significant role.
- Malone's original research showed mRNA was incredibly inflammatory and couldn't be localized
- He was told the distribution problems had been solved through new lipid formulations
- He was suffering from long COVID and couldn't do basic farm chores or walk up hills
- There was a promoted narrative that taking the vaccine could help clear long COVID symptoms
" My doc, who was a cardiologist, was like, why were you so stupid to take this? "
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