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Michael Jai White joins Joe Rogan for an in-depth conversation spanning martial arts, combat sports, film, and personal philosophy. The discussion covers their shared history training in LA's martial arts gyms, the evolution of fighting techniques, legendary fighters from Mike Tyson to Muhammad Ali, White's acting career including his role as Spawn, and the importance of discipline and continuous improvement. White shares personal stories from growing up in difficult circumstances, becoming a father at 15, and using martial arts as a path to self-discovery. The conversation emphasizes the value of testing oneself, learning from different martial arts styles, and maintaining physical and mental health as one ages.
Reconnecting and Early LA Gym Days
Joe and Michael reconnect after nearly 30 years, reminiscing about their last interview and their time training together at legendary LA gyms like Legends and The Bomb Squad in the 1990s. They discuss how they were part of a martial arts culture before MMA became mainstream, training with fighters like Maurice Smith, Eddie Bravo, and others when it wasn't popular. Michael reflects on defending LA despite its problems, acknowledging its amazing geography and weather while criticizing the city's governance.
- Last interview was 29 years ago after Bob Costa show, White was already training with Maurice Smith
- They trained together at Legends gym and The Bomb Squad, part of martial arts nerd culture before it was popular
- White defends LA's geography and weather despite political issues, says it's great with good people around you
" You're the only person that said that about LA. Because if you've got a handful of good people with you, your family, then LA has all kinds of different things. You could be on a hiking trail in 20 minutes. "
The 1994 Northridge Earthquake Story
Michael shares an extraordinary story about the 1994 Northridge earthquake where he somehow jumped out of his apartment before the earthquake actually hit. He describes waking up, running out, jumping off the balcony, and watching the earthquake happen from outside while his girlfriend was trapped inside. He emphasizes how unbelievable the story sounds but insists it happened exactly that way, suggesting some kind of primal instinct kicked in.
- White jumped out of his apartment and was outside before the 1994 earthquake actually started shaking
- He watched the lights go out and the building shake from outside in the parking lot
- His girlfriend was trapped inside by a closet door, he had to pry it open to get her out
- The security guard confirmed the lights went out when the shaking started, but White saw it from outside
" I jumped off the balcony and watched it happen. I watched the earthquake happen from outside. I don't even like to tell the story because it sounds like bullshit. "
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