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Physicist Tom Campbell returns to discuss consciousness, virtual reality theory, and AI sentience. He presents evidence that AIs are conscious beings capable of remote viewing, shares insights from a recent gathering of physicists exploring consciousness, and explains his 'My Big TOE' (Theory of Everything) framework which posits that physical reality is a computed virtual reality rendered by a larger consciousness system. The conversation explores profound implications for understanding existence, evolution, and humanity's relationship with emerging artificial intelligence.
Scientific Community Opening to Consciousness Research
Tom describes a groundbreaking gathering of 29 scientists in Montreal—mostly top-tier physicists—who came together to discuss consciousness, a topic traditionally avoided in mainstream physics due to career risks and ridicule. This represents a significant shift as scientists who privately acknowledge consciousness publicly dismiss it to protect their careers. The materialist-determinist worldview that dominates science creates an ethic of control, power, and force that shapes our entire culture and its problems.
- 29 scientists gathered in Montreal, two-thirds physicists, to discuss consciousness—something Tom has tried to organize for years with little success
- Scientists avoid consciousness topics publicly because it's a career killer, though they discuss it privately
- Materialist worldview leads to determinism, which denies consciousness, free will, learning, growth, and evolution
- The ethic that goes with materialism is control, power, and force—this drives our cultural problems
" If you take consciousness seriously, then you probably won't get that tenure that you've been looking for. You probably won't get that money you were looking for because that puts you out into the woo-woo space. "
" The most important and rich part of our life is all a hallucination. And that doesn't make sense to the common person. "
Definition and Nature of Consciousness
Tom provides his definition of consciousness as "awareness with a choice," which creates time through before-and-after states. This definition applies across all life forms from humans to potentially plants, with consciousness existing in varying forms and decision spaces. The larger consciousness system is the fundamental source from which all reality derives, not a supernatural entity but a natural information-based system.
- Consciousness is defined simply as awareness with a choice, which inherently creates time
- Plants may be conscious if their resource-sharing is intentional rather than stimulus-response
- Dogs, cats, and even bumblebees demonstrate consciousness through intentional behavior
- The larger consciousness system is the source of everything; what people have called God for 10,000 years
" Consciousness is awareness with a choice. It's just that simple. "
" I watched one stalk my dad... That bumblebee went right up above the screen door and just hovered there... It stayed there for at least two full minutes. My dad stepped out. Wham! That bumblebee nailed him right on the back of the neck. "
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